Note to reader: In addition to working very closely with Dr. Desiderius for years, I did and still do count him as the dearest of friends. We are open and direct with each other, as this interview will show. He left the academy a few years ago because, in his words, there was no longer a point to teaching. I also interview him about fifteen years ago, and sadly he has become "more jaded" (his words, not mine). This interview is equal parts, cautionary tale, reflection on the wonders and purpose of the liberal arts, and the deep sadness of a spurned lover. I can attest that there was a time when Professor Desiderius was passionate about humane learning. Robert Woods: It is always a joy to converse with you and I appreciate your time, as I know you are busy. Michael Desiderius: I use to be busy, when I was teaching, now I finally know leisure. RW: Well, I thought we would have a few moments before you took a dig at the university. MD: I'm sorry. Let me begin again....